Biotin
Has anyone looked into biotin deficiency as a cause?
This sounds more promising than anything else I’ve read about seb.
derm. I’ve just started taking 5mg of biotin a day, along with a B-
complex and extra B5 (as is sometimes recommended for acne).
November 16th, 2006 at 6:48 pm
I have been using a vitamin supplement (it is liquid) called Veema.
It is about the size of a shot glass and you put half of one product
called Mangosteen and another half of some vitamin. Veema is one of
those MLM companies and I was extremely skeptical but my wife signed
up to buy a month’s worth from a friend. I have used and since then I
have not had to put any type of cream, etc..on my sd at all. In fact,
it is the mildest it has ever been since I’ve had it. If you look at
the label of this vitamin stuff it has 2000% of daily requirements,
etc….so you definitely are not deficient of anything after taking
it. It is not cheap - I think the concoction comes out to $1.90/day
but I will take it as long as it keeps the flare-ups and SD away. If
you are interested, give it a try. My wife doesn’t even try to sell
it but once you are a customer you are a seller so email me if you are
interested so my wife can sign you up. (I am expecting no interest).
I just wanted to add what I do versus taking flax seed and fish oil
and all that stuff. One shot and I get all I need and my SD has
stayed away (has been close to two months now). Do a google on Veema
to find info. Some don’t like it because it is an "Amway" type
company - all I know is that it worked for me so far as it relates to
keeping my SD down and away.
Michael
November 18th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
Hi Michael,
Male users, such as yourself, should be very careful about using
products not approved by the FDA. Especially dietary supplements.
You CAN take more then your body can handle and end up with serious
health consequences.
My suggestion is to print out the pdf file on that mlm product your
spouse purchased, and run it by a registered dietitian for their
feedback.
For example, smokers and large amounts of Beta carotene found in
many dietary supplements can be very dangerous to your lungs. Also,
too much B6 and the male prostate do not mix well together.
Just because a product can be sold by everyday folks; like those
who peddle MLM does not make them okay to use by everyone. MLM
people are not usually trained in dietary supplements, and therefore
not aware of drug interactions especially among young children and
older adults. Drug Interactions is a major concern of MD’s.
If you would like to learn more, look for a very easy to understand
book entitled: "The Complete Idiot’s guide to Vitamins and Minerals"
written by Dr. Alan H. Pressman and Sheila Buff. It comes highly
recommended by Gary Null, Ph.D.
I’m only guessing, but I suspect it’s really the Biotin in the
product, along with the Flaxseed oil (if that’s what your taking)
that’s really helping you live with your SD. Beef Liver, Almonds,
Peanut butter, Eggs and Oat bran is the food choice for Biotin.
To your good health,
Dan
November 19th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
Have already researched what is in the product and
there is nothing in there that would be an "overdose"
of sorts. Basically a liquified version of vitamins
and minerals that I have deprived my body of (I’m not
the biggest vegetable and fruit guy). It is available
for all to see on the internet.
As far as the FDA is concerned, I think if you knew in
detail the approval process of the FDA, you’d put much
less faith in their "stamp of approval".
I never indicated I’ve taken flax seed oil. This
product does not contain flax seed oil. It does have
Biotin.
November 21st, 2006 at 3:50 am
Mr X,
You mentioned flax seed in your original post. I’m aware it is not
in the MLM product your hocking for your spouse.
First of all, your not an MD or ND. Like a good spouse, your trying
to help your spouse by looking for buyers. It’s apparent your
primary interest is making a buck peddling "Veema." Having said
that, you also have no clue if your mlm product is safe to use by
everybody, either. Apparently your not aware of a very important
thing called: Drug Interactions.
Why is it that most all newbie MLMers are instant experts the second
they sign up with a mlm company? Look, if you trully want to help
readers on this board with your spouses unique mlm product [by the
way, all mlm products are unique], then ask your spouse how much
Veema has to be purchased before SD is completely cleared up. That
information should be located in the discovery data on the double
blind clincial trials taken on the product, that is, if there where
any long term studies? Because Dietary Supplements are not regulated
by the FDA in the U.S.A., you might not have any valid studies.
Usually, it’s only the word of mouth placebo effect coming from
upbeat sellers/users who are excited about their new home based
business.
Dietary supplements, is a billion dollar industry and some products
that are sold OTC have been tested and labeled: USP Verfied. Many
dietary supplements have also failed ingredient tests, and many off
the wall formulas are so silly they should be labeled: Junk Science.
Do you know if Veema is USP Verfied?
All the best to you,
Dan
November 21st, 2006 at 11:18 am
You are completely off base. My wife and I use the
product and have not sold or offered it to anyone. I
merely have responded to the group that the product
has done wonders for my SD. I have not had to use any
additioinal product to control flaking or redness
which had been very troublesome (off and on) for the
better part of my life. To each their own, I know I
have tried countless creams, diets and vitamins with
either limited or short-term success. Vemma has been
the best product in terms of practically eliminating
the redness and flaking for over two months now.
Nothing I have tried prior has worked this well for
this long.
I’m just sharing what has worked for me. I never
indicated it was unique. I just said that it has
worked for me. If you have had severity of SD like I
have in the past, I’m not too worried if I take 200%
of my daily recommended allowance of Vitamin E. I
never claimed to be an expert. I said I researched
the product for me and have not found anything that
would make a person think - this might cause cancer.
Can have someone have a reaction to it? Sure - just
like someone allergic to peanut butter biting into a
Reeses Peanut Butter Cup.
I am not "hocking" this product and my wife does not
"sell" the product at all. I figured if it works for
me, it might work for someone else.
Dan, I appreciate you being the group police; however,
your research on what has worked for you - well - it
works for you (and probably you only). God made us
all unique. Obviously….OBVIOUSLY….if there was a
remedy that would work even 50% of the time, there
would be no SEB-DERB groups. Your advice has been no
more effective and perhaps much less effective than
Vemma in terms of repressing SD. You have none of the
double-blind studies you have talked about with regard
to anything you have tried and yet you want everyone
to only take items from approved by the FDA, I suppose
like Celebrex and Vioxx that have been proven to be
contributing factors to people’s deaths?!? Vemma is
basically vitamins and minerals. It’s more akin to an
herbal remedy that perhaps is not as effective as
claimed for all who take it but I don’t think there
will be class action lawsuits against this company
like there are on every single drug pharmaceutical
company that has had double-blinded FDA studies ad
nauseum like Elan with its wonder MS drug that just
happened to kill a few people, oops. Do you actually
know anything about the drug approval process. I’m
guessing that is not your field of expertise. Nor is
it mine but as a research analyst, I am well versed in
the process and the myriad loopholes that exist in
getting drugs approved.
Good luck in what has worked for you. You put too
much faith in dieticians and MDs who have had and
still have no clue in how to treat SD. In fact, it is
only recently they have possibly discovered which gene
is causing SD so the professionals are all still
"guessing" at this point.
Thank goodness you have protected the unsuspecting of
this group from putting down their hard earned dollars
on this vitamin junk. Without them, I’ll be down to 0
customers since I don’t sell it.
You have not done a good job (particularly with your
banter with Tony) in hiding your condescension with
your "I’m just trying to make sure everyone is
educated" attitude.
This ends my commentary with regard to this matter.
November 23rd, 2006 at 6:35 am
Mr X,
Sorry you feel I’m off base. I suggest you go back and reread your
parent note again. You asked us to contact you or your wife by e-
mail if anyone was interested in Veema. If that’s not an ad to buy
your MLM product, then what do you call it? Do you have SD or do you
have psoriasis? Or do you even know?
As for Tony, who calls himself: "the one and only Tony balooney", I
He’s against chemicals and I can
However, I did
like that guy! He cracks me up!
respect that… and I also laugh at his silly banter. I have no
issue with him. He doesn’t even use snake oil!
learn something ‘from him.’ He once had a flare-up from "pepper" and
I was shocked! Because black pepper is a well known spice and it’s
also an ingredient found in many dietary supplements!
Over time, I’ve learned that SD can be easily be treated topical,
because flare-ups are not diet related. But psoriasis is different.
A psoriasis flare-up IS diet related! It took me years before I
learned the difference. It took my four dermatologists over a ten
year span to learn that I had psoriasis first, and seborrheic
dermatitis second. Both required different prescriptions and are
treated differently.
To treat for both conditions topically, I use special a face wash,
body wash and shampoos. A mixture of 100% all natural plus a
chemical product, followed by a natural product.
Today, my ’stays’ are longer (months) without having a flare-up. And
when I do get a flare-up, I usually know right off what caused it
and knowing this… makes treating the flare-up, easier.
Yes, there are new drugs being tested and approved all the time and
that’s good news for all concerned. That said, I’ve never claimed to
be an expert. Nor do I peddle my own company products on any public
forum. But I’m very much aware of the placebo effects that come from
junk science products. That’s because I’m not a spring chicken. I’ve
been around the block having owned my own companies for 50 years.
I’ve been retired for the last 10, and it will be a long time before
I ever become out of touch with reality.
Having said that (since you checked me out) you should have
discovered from my previous posts, that I’ve shared what has worked
for me numerous times in the past. However, what you don’t know
about me (until now), is that I’ve also purchased products from
recommendations made on this very forum. And to date, there is still
no known cure for SD. But, they are working on correcting the gene
pool.
Your correct about MD’s. I know them well and they’re limited to
treating problems based on what they learned in school. Real healing
comes from within us all. No doctor can do that. It’s a fact that we
CAN controll our own SD flareups! It starts by taking better care of
ourselves first and not just once, but on a daily basis.
My dermatologists told me to take five to seven minute warm showers
daily, followed by a fragrant-free, hypoallergenic, non-comedogenic
moisturizer, but she never told me to get some daily sunshine which
helps a geat deal! In fact, none of the previous 4 dermatologists
nor my primary care doctor, or dietation ever told me to get some
sunshine. Sunshine was mentioned on this forum once with a link to
the source. The source was correct, it does help! Apparently SD skin
sufferers lack Vitimin D. So I try to get at least 15 to 20 minutes
of sunshine daily.
Since treatment for psoriasis is different then it is for SD, I
also have to watch what I’m eating, drinking and what I’m breathing,
in order to avoid flareups. That also includes dietary supplements.
All the best to you,
Dan
December 2nd, 2006 at 10:20 am
>i do believe that taking a b vitamin in your vitamins could help
simply bcause mine flares b4 my menstrution i am taking multivitamins
now for skin hair and nails which contain b vitamins to early to say
if it will make any difference i cant use a moisturer on my face as i
always react i hate this skin disease i find messing around with it
trying different moisturisers just irriates it and makes it worse
burns and makes skin more inflamed and sensitive does anybody find
this to when trying new moisturiser ect for their skin???
March 11th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Hi, I am new here too. I was wondering… has anyone tried biotin
injections?
Many thanks,
Vera