Comments on: Glad to have found you…but sad I have to! http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/ Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:15:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Lilia Kane http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/#comment-1961 Lilia Kane Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:39 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/#comment-1961 Hi Stephanie. I probably mention this in every post I make to this group, but of course I do so because I really believe its important. Try avoiding the following: Sodium Lauryl Sulfate Sodium Laureth Sulfate (Sodium Lauryl Ether Sulfate) Most people don't have a problem with them, but Seborrheic Dermatitis makes your skin ultra-sensitive. I find that If I use anything containing these ingredients (apart from toothpaste and shaving gel for some reason) my skin becomes dry, itchy and red. You will find one or the other in over 90% of shampoos. Even those <!--more--> meant for sensitive skin. Which could explain your still having problems even though you've tried several different products. There are some Neutrogena T/Gel shampoos that contain these chemicals and some that don't. I believe the one that is labelled for treatment of Seborrheic Dermatitis DOES contain them. Go figure. Anyway, the one I use is "Neutrogena T/Gel Shampoo Sensitive Scalp". It doesn't contain SLS or SLES and is also fragrance free. I just use it once a day and it seems to keep things under control. Good luck! Richard Hi Stephanie.

I probably mention this in every post I make to this group, but of
course I do so because I really believe its important. Try avoiding
the following:

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
Sodium Laureth Sulfate (Sodium Lauryl Ether Sulfate)

Most people don’t have a problem with them, but Seborrheic Dermatitis
makes your skin ultra-sensitive. I find that If I use anything
containing these ingredients (apart from toothpaste and shaving gel
for some reason) my skin becomes dry, itchy and red.

You will find one or the other in over 90% of shampoos. Even those

meant for sensitive skin. Which could explain your still having
problems even though you’ve tried several different products.

There are some Neutrogena T/Gel shampoos that contain these chemicals
and some that don’t. I believe the one that is labelled for treatment
of Seborrheic Dermatitis DOES contain them. Go figure.

Anyway, the one I use is "Neutrogena T/Gel Shampoo Sensitive Scalp".
It doesn’t contain SLS or SLES and is also fragrance free. I just use
it once a day and it seems to keep things under control.

Good luck!

Richard

]]> By: June Preston http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/#comment-1960 June Preston Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:19:16 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/#comment-1960 Blood tests won't identify seb derm. The basics of this condition is that our skin reacts abnormally to normal fungi living on our skin--several types of inflammatory skin cells go bonkers when the fungus excretes its waste products. Seb derm only effects about 5% of the population, so the other 95% of the population, while having the same amount of fungus on their skin, and that fungi excreteng the same amount and type of waste, don't get the same inflammatory response that we do. Our cells go into this inflammatory cycle because they are perceiving a hostile threat, even though in reality, the fungus poses no threat at all. When the skin goes into inflammatory mode, it becomes very red and sensitive (flare-up) and then attempts to renew/heal itself (the flaking)--however, unless the inflammatory response is stopped, this cycle continues on, seemingly indefinitely. This is why the condition is so frustrating. <!--more--> Other things may have effects on seb derm flare ups as well, such as temperature, humidity levels, certain foods, and other topical irritants (like checmiclas in soaps, shampoos, hair spray, etc etc). But hte basiic cause of seb derm is that our cells are having an abnormal response to some thing that is quite normal--that is my high level understanding of an autoimmune disorder, so until the cells either naturally de-program themselves (doubtful), or it is done chemically (topically or internally), the cycle will pretty much continue. Blood tests won’t identify seb derm. The basics of this condition is that
our skin reacts abnormally to normal fungi living on our skin–several types
of inflammatory skin cells go bonkers when the fungus excretes its waste
products. Seb derm only effects about 5% of the population, so the other
95% of the population, while having the same amount of fungus on their skin,
and that fungi excreteng the same amount and type of waste, don’t get the
same inflammatory response that we do. Our cells go into this inflammatory
cycle because they are perceiving a hostile threat, even though in reality,
the fungus poses no threat at all.

When the skin goes into inflammatory mode, it becomes very red and sensitive
(flare-up) and then attempts to renew/heal itself (the flaking)–however,
unless the inflammatory response is stopped, this cycle continues on,
seemingly indefinitely. This is why the condition is so frustrating.


Other things may have effects on seb derm flare ups as well, such as
temperature, humidity levels, certain foods, and other topical irritants
(like checmiclas in soaps, shampoos, hair spray, etc etc). But hte basiic
cause of seb derm is that our cells are having an abnormal response to some
thing that is quite normal–that is my high level understanding of an
autoimmune disorder, so until the cells either naturally de-program
themselves (doubtful), or it is done chemically (topically or internally),
the cycle will pretty much continue.

]]> By: June Preston http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/#comment-1959 June Preston Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:10:17 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2006/10/30/glad-to-have-found-you-but-sad-i-have-to/#comment-1959 Chances are slim that you are allergic to something in the shampoos as SD is not really a allergic condition, but moreso an automimmune disorder like psoriasis. Iit is just that the effective ingredients to treat seb derm generally are not that great for your hair because the shampoo is meant to be a scalp/skin treatment. I have found that Loreal Vive for Men with Pyrhtione Zinc and Garnier Fructis with Pyrhtione Zinc are the least drying. You can also try Head and Shoulders 2 in 1 (shampoo and conditioner). You can use any of these shamppos daily with out having to switch to a non-dandruff shampoo. If I use a regular shampoo, my SD comes back almost instantly. These shampoos all cost about $5 each so you won't break the bank by doing soem trial and error. Hair gels and hair sprays will also aggravate SD so stay away from them <!--more--> You should also try apple cider vinegar on yoru scalp 1 to 2 times per week. This stuff works the best for getting rid of the itching. Chances are slim that you are allergic to something in the shampoos as SD is
not really a allergic condition, but moreso an automimmune disorder like
psoriasis. Iit is just that the effective ingredients to treat seb derm
generally are not that great for your hair because the shampoo is meant to
be a scalp/skin treatment.

I have found that Loreal Vive for Men with Pyrhtione Zinc and Garnier
Fructis with Pyrhtione Zinc are the least drying. You can also try Head and
Shoulders 2 in 1 (shampoo and conditioner). You can use any of these
shamppos daily with out having to switch to a non-dandruff shampoo. If I
use a regular shampoo, my SD comes back almost instantly. These shampoos all
cost about $5 each so you won’t break the bank by doing soem trial and
error. Hair gels and hair sprays will also aggravate SD so stay away from
them


You should also try apple cider vinegar on yoru scalp 1 to 2 times per week.
This stuff works the best for getting rid of the itching.

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