Diet III
I was informed by a homeopathic doctor that diet plays a critical role
in SD and skin conditions. He informed me to stop my wheat, dairy,
sugar intake. In addition, he mentioned that it would most likely be
months before I noticed any change. This is due to the fact that my
body is conditioned towards certain foods that I’ve been ingesting all
my life and it has to get used to the new foods.
April 23rd, 2006 at 5:50 am
Chris,
I’m sure your homeopathic doctor is talking about processed milk,
wheat bread and sugar. Have you tried changing to Organic milk, 100%
stone ground whole wheat bread, and used sweet cinnamon and honey
instead of sugar?
Sugar makes you perky hyper quickly, and can bring you down just as
fast which can be stressful, and frustrating. Try cinnamon and honey
instead of sugar.
To certain people with SD Sugar could easily bring on a SD flare up
and keep one going and that can be very STRESSFUL and FRUSTRATING.
If you cannot find stone ground wheat bread in your grocery store,
then follow your homeopathic doctor’s suggestion.
Dan
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:38 pm
Why would honey have a less spikey effect on blood sugar level than
processed sugar? I believe honey is higher in fructose, which is one
of the simplest and quickest digesting sugars. I would expect it to be
just as bad.
April 27th, 2006 at 1:11 am
Dan
April 29th, 2006 at 1:25 am
Your web page says that sugar promotes bacterial growth while honey
kills bacteria. That’s because its sugar content is too high and water
content too low. Go figure! (Just as the dry bag of refined sugar in
my cabinet doesn’t seem to be growing anything.)
There’s nothing there to explain why honey might be metabolized more
slowly, and plenty of stuff that makes me think I should long be dead
for eating as much sugar as I do….
Sorry, I don’t find any credible information there. It’s just a list
of opinions with no supporting evidence or reasoning.
It may not be *refined* sugar, but it’s still sugar and is readily
absorbed and coverted to glycogen. Athletes consider honey a
performance boost comparable to energy gels.
I think honey is cool and I’m sure it has some useful secondary
ingredients, but it’s going to have most of the bad properties that
refined sugar has.
-T
April 30th, 2006 at 8:52 am
That is a common suggestion, I’ve never had the disciplin going
without these things for too long. I tried for a about 2-3 weeks once,
and dropped from about 80 kg (184 cm in height) to 69 - I was thin, to
say the least. And from what I remember it didn’t do anything for my
skin. But, like I said, I wasn’t strong enough to continue this diet.
Being half Italian I can’t even go a few days without eating some
pasta!
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:16 pm
Torrentiall2,
Sorry, but I have to disagree with your belief that honey has most
of the bad properties that refined sugar has. One way of finding the
truth is to simply eat honey or sugar until your skin breaks out
with SD (i.e., if it ever does) and then switch over to the other
sweetner and do the same thing.
Best to you,
Dan
May 4th, 2006 at 5:43 am
Good News Andreas! Seborrheic Dermatitis is NOT diet related!
Dan
May 7th, 2006 at 4:16 am
Listed below are several links that talk about the relationship
between certain foods and inflammation. The articles list foods that
promote inflammation and also food that help suppress inflammation.
Yeast can be similarly affected by the same foods.
The articles note other contributing factors such as genes, stress,
etc. so clearly there are other factors affecting conditions such as
seb derm that involve inflammation and/or yeast. That may explain why
we can still have flare-ups even if we are eating well. The first
article contains the results of a study of arthritis patients where
some followed an anti-inflammatory diet for 8 months, some followed a
Western diet and subsets of each group took fish oil supplements.
Like Andreas, I don’t have the discipline to go without some of the
"bad foods" for too long. I admit that I like them too much. But I do
try to be conscious of what I’m eating and do things in moderation. I
have noticed that if I get overindulgent with sugary/yeasty foods I
sometimes get very bad flare-ups.
Recently I’ve been taking two things internally that I think are
helping. I’ve been using Yogi Detox tea and also incorporating a
small amount of rosemary-infused olive oil into each meal (usually I
put it over my food or dip my food into it). I also use ginger, which
is known for anti-inflammatory properties.
Sharon Kantanie
On Nov 19, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Andreas Magnusson wrote:
May 7th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
Now thats Food for thought isnt it don’t you think dan AKA "Chemical Ali"??
Tony Balanoey the One and Only
May 8th, 2006 at 8:43 am
You’re welcome to disagree. Just remember, honey is made of 80% sugar
and about 17% water… the big question is what else is in there that
makes a difference.
-Torre
May 10th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Tony,
I’m well aware of the facts in the links that Sharon provided, but
apparently your not. I suggest you check the links out for yourself,
like I did. Don’t just skim them, but READ them. Once again, SD is
not diet related and those links confirm what AAD wrote. Don’t
confuse SD inflammation with foods that can cause inflammations,
because food itself does not bring on SD. You might get a food rash
or inflammation from certain foods, but not SD. If anything, add
some Omega-3’s to your diet.
Dan
May 11th, 2006 at 8:25 pm
Dan
May 15th, 2006 at 6:59 am
Yes
Thanks for agreeing with me
Tony Baloney the ONe and ONly
May 15th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
I’m not saying anything about diet playing a role for seb derm,
allthough my own personal experience tells me it does not. But, there
is actully one thing I can’t take — really spicy food. I ate some a
few weeks ago. Now, I don’t know if it were because I had ran out of
supplements or eating this food, or the two combined — but I got the
worst flare in a long, long time. Hell, I don’t even have "flares" any
longer. That is a thing of the past for me, thank god. Sure, I do get
flaky here and there sometimes, but not like this.
Anyway, my father on the other hand, who also has seb derm and was the
one passing it on to me (thanks dad!), claims he can’t eat certain
foods without getting a flare, sometimes just within an hour.
My point is we’re all different, and we react to different things.
Conditions like this, and rosacea for that matter, just doesn’t follow
an already outlined map. That is what makes it so hard to fight back
– we just don’t know how, til we’ve gone through about every single
cleanser available, every moisturizer and every god damn "miracle cream".
May 20th, 2006 at 7:24 am
Andreas,
Rosacea is treated differently then Seborrheic Dermatitis.
From over active oil glands, we go to yeast fungus. So my question
to you is: What are the names of the "really spicy foods" that you
ate? What foods did your father eat and does he also have SD or
Rosacea? And was it SD or Rosedia that you broke out with?
Thanks,
Dan
May 24th, 2006 at 11:24 am
Dan,
Sure they are treated differently, but they are evil cousins, and is
often seen together.
The spicy food I ate was these green, long things you get together
with a kebab, but not just one, but something like 15-20 during a 2-3
days period. Not a good idea, as I was to find out. But as I also
mentioned I had run out of supplements, which have been a great help
for my skin. Maybe these two things togehter caused this SD flare.
Either way, I know spicy food is one of the most common triggers for
both rosacea and seb derm.
My father only has seb derm, and claims he can’t eat fried things or
gratinated cheese, among other things. I believe dairy is also
something he avoids, but that has never been anything for him so that
ain’t a problem to avoid. He also says that boiled potatoes actully
help his skin "heal". Dunno what to believe, but he’s very strict when
it comes to food, and once a takes a slice of pizza or something like
that he actully brakes out around the nose.
I on the other hand can eat pizza, ice cream, pasta or whatever
I
without anything happening. But I also mentioned I don’t have the
discipline to stay away from all this too long, so maybe I could
improve my skin a bit by eating better. But as long as it doesn’t get
worse than where I am now, I’ll continue to enjoy pizza once in a
while and even some ice cream. And pasta - must have my pasta!
also have a Turkish girlfriend who makes the most unbelievable foods,
which often consists of, or are at least accompanied by, some kind of
bread.
May 26th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
Hi Andreas,
Your correct about rosacea… it’s a cousin but it not SD by a long
shot. Seborrheic Dermatitis is more closely related to psoriasis
then it is to rosacea.
Anyway, with that said and like you… I eat pizza, cheese, drink
milk, but I also avoid can sodas and cheap drink mixes. I also eat
meat, potatoes, etc, but avoid fried foods cooked with CHEAP fatty
oil. I only use Virgin olive oil and grapeseed oil. I broil my meat
and fish and bake chicken instead of frying it. I drink organic
milk, organic grown green and Oolong tea, coffee, OJ, grape juice,
blueberry and cranapple juice, and eat plenty of veggies and fruits.
Boiled ‘red’ potatoes are better for you then fried ones, and some
pizza toppings (especially spicy toppings) might bring about red
rosé cheeks, which could affect the nervous system which might bring
out a SD flare-up…
Have you ever had your skin tested for those "green, long things?"
They sound like sliced bell peppers, which is a common topping on
pizza. Try avoiding bell peppers, pepperoni and any other spicy
toppings on your next pizza to see if that helps.
Best to you,
Dan