Diet and Weather
From peoples experiences I’d be curious to hear what effect, if any,
food and the environment have on SD.
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From peoples experiences I’d be curious to hear what effect, if any,
food and the environment have on SD.
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March 14th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
Chris:
Doctors say stress is the number one factor for flare ups. With that
said, I believe what we eat (and when) along with getting some daily
outdoor sunlight does our body more good then not. Therefore, if your
environment is causing you stress, change your environment!
March 15th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
Chris, I’ve read that food and stress don’t really affect the sebderm,
and my own experience definitely confirms that. My own experiments
have shown that, at least in my case, diet has no effect on my
condition, nor does drinking copious amounts of water. As far as
stress goes, I’ve had some of my worst skin in my least stressed times,
and vice versa. I personally haven’t seen a connection at all with
weather, either. However, if I allow myself to get hot — at all — I
get a flare. I cannot allow my face to get any sweat on it whatsoever,
or I will flare for sure, even if I wash it immediately.
March 16th, 2006 at 5:44 am
well i am/was allergic to black pepper and coffee. I have eliminated those
from my diet for the past two years and no flare. Recently went to
australia, let my guard down. began eating meat pies (loaded with pepper),
cured sausages ( loaded with pepper), blackened tuna and seafood (loaded
with pepper), also drank two cups of coffee while i was there (approx 2 1/2
weeks) After the 36 hour stressed trip back home, guess what i had a flare!!
sounds legitimate to me
Tony the Baloney the ONe and ONly
Black Pepper Free Baloney that is
March 16th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
well i am/was allergic to black pepper and coffee. I have eliminated those
from my diet for the past two years and no flare. Recently went to
australia, let my guard down. began eating meat pies (loaded with pepper),
cured sausages ( loaded with pepper), blackened tuna and seafood (loaded
with pepper), also drank two cups of coffee while i was there (approx 2 1/2
weeks) After the 36 hour stressed trip back home, guess what i had a flare!!
sounds legitimate to me
Tony the Baloney the ONe and ONly
Black Pepper Free Baloney that is
p.s. Once the flare hit, went out in the sun..helps a lot!!
March 21st, 2006 at 6:09 am
Dan
March 22nd, 2006 at 3:50 am
Dan: its very hard to believe that even though penicillan has "demonstrated
healthy impresive" results against diseases that people still can be
allergic to it. take a look at this website
www.donttrustdansmedicaljudgement.com it explains everything.
Tony the baloney the one and only
March 23rd, 2006 at 7:03 pm
Tony: LOL on your bogus "www.donttrustdansmedicaljudgement(dot)com"
I’ve also been
site. YOur a very funny guy. But with that said, what does
chemotherapy "penicillin" have to do with pepper and coffee? You
mentioned pepper and black coffee, not penicillin. Did your
Dermatologist test you for pepper and coffee? Or was that your own
off the wall conclusion? I suspect the later.
around the block with major health problems, so I rather trust
science and proven facts instead of off the wall advice. That’s why
I included links to my posted facts. You may be allergic to certain
types of foods, but a healthy spice like pepper? Without a skin
test, I do not believe you. Now Coffee is a drug. Do you think you
drank too much coffee and had a drug reaction to it? If so, then I
might believe you, but not about pepper.
Dan
March 25th, 2006 at 1:30 am
Tony, I bet your problem was not the pepper or coffee, but the "36
hour stressed trip back home." Key word "Stressed."
To positive thoughts,
Dan
March 25th, 2006 at 11:11 pm
Dr. Dan
what about the 36 hour stressed trip flying to australia before eating any
black pepper or coffee, i never broke out then. Only when in consumed black
pepper and coffee did i break out. Again Dan, I "STRESS" look at the
website www.daniswrongagain.com
Tony the Baloney the One and Only
March 26th, 2006 at 9:20 am
Dr. Dan,
of course i was tested. but good job keep looking at the websites for more
advice, your on the right track for yourself. Many people are allergic to
different products i.e. peanuts, milk, eggs, not everybody is like you Dan,
where your not allergic to anything. Tony the Baloney is Allergic to Dan
but good job Dr. Dan. You know everything about nothing if you dont believe
me look at the website www.danknowseverythingaboutnothing.com
Tony the Baloney the One and Only
March 26th, 2006 at 2:59 pm
You tell em Tony. To say nobody is allergic to …. or sensitive
to something is bollox. Alot of Docs i have been to know very
little about the condition or just arent willing to entertain
someone whos gotta bit of bad skin cos the next patient through the
door has cancer or something more serious (cos health care is free
here they prioritise more). But other docs to think of it more
serious.
As for ACVM… Dan your right about that. They are fruit cakes on
there.
Dust
March 27th, 2006 at 1:02 am
may be the caffeine in the coffee .
it has effects on the cappilaries and blod flow.
its not an allergy per se
March 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
I was told I was allergic to cold (as in cold weather) when I was a
kid, so I guess anything’s possible. :o)
March 28th, 2006 at 12:33 am
LOL! Andreas, I’m also "allergic" to cold weather too!
All/Best,
Dan
March 28th, 2006 at 7:35 am
Surely there’s a "chip on your shoulder group" or "argumentative
group" you can sign up to Dan rather than taking it out on a Sebderm
one?
Alot of people call it allergic but they mean interolerant or
sensitive to. Its just easier to call it allergic because they are
intolerant to something Dan, so dont get your knickers in a twist
over it ok. If something works or does not for someone, accept it
and go by your own code. Being arrogant about it is just offensive
(hence the responce you got).
ACVM. The mother means that its 100% natural and contains the
natural bacteria formed in its fermentation process. Is far
stonger, and is not purified and contains everything as it was. I
think some normal ACV has some things taken out and is pasturised.
ACVM is not. i tried both and ACVM is like battery acid compared.
Makes your eyes water and tastes bleah. You might want to try it,
seems to work for some but not for me. Makes your hair amazingly
strong and thick and healthy.. did mine. but not my skin and the
smell lasts forever even after several showers. i dont mind some
discomfort if it works, I would eat dog shit if it worked.
Dust
March 28th, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Dustie your a sweetheart,
Dr. Dan,
as long as i stay away from coffee and black pepper i am flare and flake
free amongst my vitamin supplements. But for you Dr. Dan your steroids seem
to have harmed you more than you think. Good luck with you, your a long way
from being cured or "remission" free. Keep up the Bad work kiddo. Of course
i was tested dan, through a kinseoligist & nutrionist. if you want more
information on it go to www.drdancantstandit.com it really is a good website
or try www.mustmakeyourassitch.com
Tony the Baloney The One and Only
March 29th, 2006 at 7:00 am
Dustie: Your 100% correct. I have been argumentative, and I
then so be
apologize. If someone believes they are allergic to black pepper,
black coffee, cold weather, or even their own spouse
it. I also appreciate the acv "mother" meaning.
As for the other website… I was not approved by e-mail, because I
either did not give a detail reply all about me per the group sites
owner "rules." Well, I prefer to use prescriptions that work and
chemical based shampoos that work, not junk science! Since I did not
express a willingness to stop using products that wrok for me, I was
sent an e-mail telling me that I’ve not been approved to the food
diet or the ACV or ACVM program. Not surprised, I deleted my
introduction posts on the SD support site and removed the group from
my list of groups. I’m actually very happy I was not approved,
because I know for sure that I would have called those ACVM users a
bunch of nuts. IMO, lemon juice would have been a much better choice.
As for diet? Take Tony’s advice,
Dan
March 29th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Tony, Dustie’s correct and I apologize for brow bruising you. If you
say your allergic to black pepper and black coffee, then so be it.
Also keep up with your rye wit, you crack me up.
Dan
March 30th, 2006 at 9:06 pm
Dan,
I agree with you wholeheartedly that the ACVWM group is overly rigid
and stubborn in its participant requirements. I initially was turned
off as well, and that nearly led me not to enroll in it. However, you
are severely missing out by not trying ACVWM. For years, I tried
dandruff shampoos on my face as well as "natural" products I found on
EBAY. All worked briefly and then lost their effectiveness while
making my face disguistingly red and irritated. I’ve been using ACVWM
successfully now for 2 months; far longer than any of those chemicals.
And all of this despite NOT exactly following the ACVWM procedure that
is posted in that group. Try to put your pride aside and enroll so you
can give it a chance. The success of ACVWM for so many people proves
that it’s neither "junk science" nor are its users nuts. You can’t
trust pharmaceutical companies simply because a doctor prescribes
their products. Both of these entities know far less about our
condition then we do, and both have a vested financial interest in
prescribing the lackluster products that they continually do. The best
science is the science done by people like you and me who have tried
everything and have no financial interest in pushing a product. And
you will find that the majority of those people will recommend ACVWM.
March 31st, 2006 at 11:08 am
No problemo Dr. Dan,
as long as no one is allergic to Tony Baloney everything is fine
Tony Baloney the one and only
April 1st, 2006 at 6:03 am
Sorry, nymrulez, but there is no way in hell I am going to put ACVM
on my face and drop the meds that ARE WORKING for me! I got cleared
up within 48 hours with Protopic. But since I’m now using Clobetasol
with the same results, I dropped Protopic. I’ll put ACV on my salads
becasue it’s good for my stompic and colon, and take a good vitamin
B complex supplement instead. I’m still clear after 17 days. I first
applied Clobetasol on October 7th to my scalp, T-zone nose area,
around my years and knuckles. I’m very happy with my results. Im
also using DHS SAL Shampoo. It has Salicylic Acid and relieves
symptoms of Psoriasis, Seborrheic Dermatitis and Dandruff. I even
ordered it online at: www.personandcovey.com
Best to you,
Dan
April 1st, 2006 at 1:04 pm
When i joined the ACVM group i was not prepared to go as far as you
either Dan. Well i tried but it did not help.
I have eczema sometimes quite severely, which i had way before the
SD took hold… probably due to to much steroid creams. And the
AVCM really irritated the eczema, which irritated the group.
Now i am using Steroid Elocon for my nose, steroid nose spray, and
the rest of my face some natural stuff from Thailand which works
well. I know the side effects but i would rather suffer the
consequences of that - than have a face looking like a grenade
exploded on it. Its very depressing which i am sure others do feel
but at least that and the diet i am on is only just containing it.
I want to give ACVM a try again one day.. but certainly not anyday
soon.
- Dust
April 1st, 2006 at 11:51 pm
Dan, I’m glad the meds are working for you. But be advised, there are
countless people in the ACVWM forum who successfully used meds for a
long time before sufferring from the debilitating side effects they
inevitably bring. These side effects include, but are not limited to,
a condition called steroid induced rosacea where the skin retains a
semi-permanent reddish tint due to the thinning caused by the
steroids. In fact, it is these types of warnings that I’ve read that
have lead me to never put a drop of any steroid on my face. They are
great quick fixes, but in the long-term they are very damaging. In
addition, 17 days is not enough of a time frame to deem them any more
successful than most alternative methods which would work just as well
in that short a sample. It’s really a catch-22, use them short-term
but stop and the SD returns — use them long-term and never stop, and
you suffer serious side effects. Your doctor will not tell you that. I
don’t want to encourage you to stop something that’s working, but I do
want to make sure you are forewarned before you decide this is your
long-term cure.
April 2nd, 2006 at 10:50 am
without having to subscribe to the ACVM group, can
anyone give a general procedure on how to apply (i.e.
dilution, time, etc..). I get flare-ups occasionally,
with the flaking of the brows and in/behind the ears.
How would I use the ACVM in this case. Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
April 2nd, 2006 at 10:39 pm
Dustie:
If you have eczema, try Protopic.
If you have SD and Psoriasis you should try Clobetasol topical
solution for the nose, eyebrows, ears and sculp, and Clobetasol
Ointment for neck, chest, knuckles.
Eczema sufferers should also use chemical free and fragrant free
products. I use a few all Natural products from the following
company and highly recommend them. Go to: www.The-Natural-Shop.com
In "The Natural Physician’s Healing Therapies" book, by Mark
Stengler, N.D., the following words are listed Eczema. They are:
cell salts; evening primrose oil; fish oil; flaxseed; food
sensitivity therapy; licorice root; and vitamim E. From this list of
words I looked in the reference guide to quickly help me find
solutions to to eczema. For cell salt they recommended Kali
Sulphuricum (Kali Sulph).
For the oils they wrote: "Studies show that internal use of evening
primrose oil provides relief from itching but can take up to four
months of continuous use to be fully effective. Again, I would
recommend it to be taken in an oil blend with fish or flax oil. Any
kind of omega-3 fatty-acid supplementation, whether it comes from
flaxseed or fish oil, can help treat eczema."
Under Food sensitivities they wrote that it "might eliminate the
underlying cause of eczema (though you should also consider fatty-
acid imbalances as a possible cause). Eczema is not a cortisone-
cream deficiency: You’re not treating the cause if you just stop the
irritation and itching with an over-the-counter ointment."
Under Licorice root (for eczema and psoriasis) it says: "Creams
containing glycyrrhetinic acid are used to treat inflammatory skin
conditions such as eczema and psoriasis. It’s effect is similar to
that of tropical cortisone, and some studies have found it more
effective. However, I do not recommend tropical treatments (whether
natural or pharmaceutical) as the main therapy for skin conditions,
as they can simply mask a symptom without treating its underlying
cause (e.g., food sensitivities, poor digestion, nutritional
deficiencies, etc.). Tropical treatments are fine, so long as you
also address the internal imbalances that are treating the symptom."
And finally, Viamin E for Eczema. "Vitamin E taken both internally
and applied externally can be helpful to reduce eczema."
Only one recommendation was listed in that book for Seborrheic
Dermatitus. Biotin. "Biotin is a B vitamin known for it’s benefit to
nails and hair." I get my biotin from oatmeal, bananas and organic
milk. I also eat meat, chicken, and beans.
All/Best,
Dan
April 3rd, 2006 at 5:34 am
steriods work for sebderm for almost everybody.
but it must tell u something that when u stop using
them u get steriod rebound . its not a cure but a
treatment
April 3rd, 2006 at 6:57 pm
Once again nymrulez, I’m not buying into ACVM as a tropical
treatment for Dermatitus. A cold milk face bath sounds much better.
By the way, there are 100% all natural products that work great! I
use then and recommend you check out: www.The-Natural-Shop.com
For your infomation, I’m not an idiot and use prescribed tropical
meds as needed and in very low doses. I also eat (for the most part)
healthy meals, and supplement as needed.
I’m not suffering from prescribed drugs because I follow doctors
instructions. By the way, I’m on my 9th year as a cancer survivor. I
was supposed to take 12 Chemo treatemnts but stopped at 4. The only
thing I’m "suffering" from today, is COPD, which I’ll die from.
So until I do die, when (and if) my newest tropical meds stop
working, I’ll make another appointment to see my dermatologist.
Look, when I had eczema the only thing that worked for me was
Protopic. Protopic cleared up my red inflamed nose and sculp two
days later! I was so happy, I tossed out all the other tropical
meds. When I got new breakouts, in different areas, I got new meds
and they worked better then Protopic because I had a different skin
problem. Now I still have an unopened tube of Protopic, but my goal
is not having to open it since I’m currently being treated for SD
and Psoriasis with Clobetasol.
Dan
PS: Don’t forget to add two teaspoons of ACV on your mixed green
salid.
April 4th, 2006 at 5:06 am
Dan
April 4th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
Dr. Dan,
with the amount of chemicals you use in your life time your new name now is
"Chemical Ali". The core of this group is the unsatisfaction and
realization that dermatologist really do not help our condition what so
ever. We are looking for a different approach because if there was that
magical ointment i dont think this group would exist. People have tried
ACVM, majority of them with positive results, few have not succeeded. Sure
they wash their face with it and applying to their scalps, even sprinkle it
on their salads. But i will tell you this, it tastes a whole lot better
sprinkling Apple Cider Vinigar on my salad than Clobestol or what ever you
use. My approach is from the inside out. So far so good, i havnt seen a
Dermatologist in about 2 years, no ointments, no treatments. As i mentioned
before, and I know how much it itches your ass to hear this, as long as i
avoid the foods that I am allergic to or food sensativities (e.g., food
sensitivities, poor digestion, nutritional
deficiencies, etc.) as you mentioned before in your posts im ok, if not
cured so damed under control i feel like a million bucks. Tony Baloney
Ready to Spring into Action!!!
Tony Baloney the One and ONly
April 4th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
Its easy to call someone chemical mad Tony, but until youve got a
body covered with eczema and various other conditions, you have no
idea why people go with perscription drugs. I do becuase i just
cant handle life without using them… might be bad, sad whatever
but at least it works. If there was something else that did the job
i would switch without doubt. I hate using chemicals on my body but
theres fook all else out there thats so effective.
Because of my diet, the eczema is almost fully under control…. i
can live with that. But for the seb-derm i just have not found
anything else that works. I tired Protopic, but it makes my skin
hurt alot. When water touches my skin after using that it hurts and
it feels uncomfortable every other time. I tried Elidel as well but
didnt do anything either. But the vitamins and flax and other stuff
like zinc do help. I really do think that the answer lies
internally Dan, your right there. And i should explore that avenue
alot more, but its difficult to try everything financially as well.
cheers for the suggestions
- Dust
April 5th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
I agree with you 100%. If you check my previous posts all the way from the
beginning when things were very bad with me, I use to say i would even eat
dog crap and wipe that on my face if it worked. Then i used to go around
saying Vitamin B for bullet - that always works to. I understand 100%
completely what you all are going through. Im still in it to. We are all
one big happy family!! Just ask my cousin Talami Salami
Tony Baloney the ONe and ONly
April 5th, 2006 at 9:42 pm
Dear Tony Baloney: Do you have a reading problem? Sure I use over
the counter products with chemicals and drug prescriptions, but I
also use 100% all natural products too! In fact I buy them from this
site: www.The-Natural-Shop.com
I’m considering ordering one or two of the books about AVCM, along
with a bottle of AVCM to sample some of the remedies listed, but I
WILL NOT put any ACVM on my face! Anyway, my face is not broke out.
That’s because I only use 100% all natural products on my face.
Which pretty much destroys your "Chemical Ali" humor.
I’ve tried different products on my face from Dermadoctor, but with
limited results, so I went back to 100% all natural products from:
www.The-Natural-Shop.com
I’ve also changed shampoo. From P&S Shampoo to DHS SOL shampoo for
my SD and Psoriasis. DHS SOL is fragrant free. Are you aware
FRAGRANCE in skin care products are the root of most skin problems?
Same goes for what you wear (I only wear cotton), and what you wash
clothes with (we only use fragrant free laundry soap).
Dan
April 6th, 2006 at 7:51 am
Hi Dustie: Protopic and water do not mix. In fact your supposed to
put Protopic on dry skin and you’re supposed to stay out of the sun
with Protopic on or you’ll feel like your melting. I only used it in
the evenings after washing up or 30 minutes after a shower. Usually
my skin was clear in the morning, so I only added a non-comedogenic
sunscreen, like DermaDoctor Boby Guard with spf 30.
Best to you,
Dan
April 7th, 2006 at 2:39 am
Dan, just out of curiosity, which Dermadoctor products did you use?
Andy,
Group Creator/Moderator/Master of the Universe
April 7th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
and thats no baloney
Tony Baloney the One and ONly
April 8th, 2006 at 12:27 am
Andy wrote: "Dan, just out of curiosity, which Dermadoctor products
did you use?"
Hi Andy: I used Tease zone, Picture porefect, and body guard.
I used Tease zone followed a few minutes later with Picture porefect
to control the flow of oil on my nose. On hot sunny days, I would
add Body Guard to my forehead prior to going outside.
I still recommend using these three products for the T-Zone area if
prescribed meds are not working. Knock on wood, I have not had any
flar ups since I started using clobetasol solution on my nose and
scalp and changed my medicated shampoo from P&S shampoo to DHS SAL
by Person & Covey. I ordered online at www.personandcovey.com
By the way, since I prefer shaving with a brush and mug, I also
ordered the DHS Clear Shampoo. It’s a fragrane-free, color-free
version of their DHS Shampoo. "DHS CLEAR is designed for especialy
sensitive patients who prefer daily hair and scalp cleansing."
Dan
April 8th, 2006 at 10:36 am
Andy: The dermadoctor products that I listed in my previous reply to
you are fine. It was Vanicream products that I ordered for my face
from dermadoctor that had limited results. I should have been clearer.
While I’m add it, I might as well add the following info: I was given
a few soy products from Bath and Body Works (as a gift) under the Pure
Simplicity logo. I tried the Soy Sensitive Skin Calming Self-foaming
face wash and the Soy body wash once, and went back to my 100% all
natural face and body wash products.
Dan
April 14th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Not to be contrary, but you should know that there’s some indication
that Protopic causes lymphoma. I was on it for a year, but the
evidence is pretty compelling so I went off of it. My condition is
actually much better w/what I’ve done since (laser, microderm,
moisturizer, B vitamins).