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		<title>By: Neva Marjory</title>
		<link>http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2005/03/01/seb-derm-rosacea-and-oral-antifungal-sporanox/#comment-1038</link>
		<author>Neva Marjory</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2005 07:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Natalja,
You said you had the pharmacy make a vaseline/ketoconazole product, I
dont understand why you made them use pure Vaseline, as this is
incredibly sticky and I dont think very skin friendly. I think Dr
Nase recommended a light, non acnegenic base lotion or gel. You dont
want something as sticky as vaseline on your face. The pharmacies
have light, sensitive skin bases I would think. If not, maybe it
would be ok to just add the ketoconaxole to an aloe vera gel?

I dont know how bad your seb derm is. Back in 1997 I had a really bad
seb derm outbreak after taking antibiotics. I took antibiotics for
acne. And they NEVER did anything good. Antibiotics sucks in my
opinion, at least for the skin.
Back then the only thing the dermatologist (he didnt know what he was
doing in my opinion - any derm who prescribes a corticosteroid as the
&lt;!--more--&gt;
main treatment for seb derm isliving in the past, or doesnt care
about his patients) could give me was a vaseline base corticosteroid,
it helped a little, but was mainly a BITCH.

Then in 1999 a new derm gave me this natural lotion that was made by
a homeopath, and it was a big improvement, but itching, sebum and
increased redness came and went.
In 2001-2002 I discovered Cutanix, and it was a better solution.
Then I did a course of ACCUTANE, and it worked very well to reduce my
acne to a minor problem. When on the course, sebum was reduced a lot,
so it calmed my seb derm down. Combined with cutanix it worked very
well.
But I wasnt all that satisfied with cutanix, because it does not
address the sebum component of seb derm, and it does not fully combat
the inflammation. 3-4 weeks ago I didnt have any more cutanix, so a
friend of mine in the states said he had scrapped the Cutanix and
used a pure 100 % aloe vera gel in stead, and it worked as well or
better.
So I bought an aloe vera gel and it has worked very well for my seb
derm as an anti inflammatory gel now for 3 weeks. I also use the
Linda Sy Acne Oil Control Gel every other evening or so, it is a
gentle pure salicylic acid gel. It helps to reduce oil and clean
pores.

So what I am saying is that aloe vera gel works better than anything
I have tried for seb derm. How it would work for seriously inflamed
seb derm Im not sure. FOR THAT I would say Accutane would be a choice.

Oh, I would scrap alcohol, I dont think it is good for seb derm. And
smoking too, for obvious reasons.

Other that that, keep an eye out for the company Tamarkin
Pharmaceutical who are working with a anti seb derm lotion of great
promise. I dont know when they will launch it and if they will be
handling out samples, I do not think so, I think it will be a
prescription lotion, even if it has very few side effects. The
company does not answer e-mail, which I find very rude. But maybe
they think genious does not answer e-mail?;)

Best wishes,
MLH, Norway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Natalja,<br />
You said you had the pharmacy make a vaseline/ketoconazole product, I<br />
dont understand why you made them use pure Vaseline, as this is<br />
incredibly sticky and I dont think very skin friendly. I think Dr<br />
Nase recommended a light, non acnegenic base lotion or gel. You dont<br />
want something as sticky as vaseline on your face. The pharmacies<br />
have light, sensitive skin bases I would think. If not, maybe it<br />
would be ok to just add the ketoconaxole to an aloe vera gel?</p>
<p>I dont know how bad your seb derm is. Back in 1997 I had a really bad<br />
seb derm outbreak after taking antibiotics. I took antibiotics for<br />
acne. And they NEVER did anything good. Antibiotics sucks in my<br />
opinion, at least for the skin.<br />
Back then the only thing the dermatologist (he didnt know what he was<br />
doing in my opinion - any derm who prescribes a corticosteroid as the<br />
<!--more--><br />
main treatment for seb derm isliving in the past, or doesnt care<br />
about his patients) could give me was a vaseline base corticosteroid,<br />
it helped a little, but was mainly a BITCH.</p>
<p>Then in 1999 a new derm gave me this natural lotion that was made by<br />
a homeopath, and it was a big improvement, but itching, sebum and<br />
increased redness came and went.<br />
In 2001-2002 I discovered Cutanix, and it was a better solution.<br />
Then I did a course of ACCUTANE, and it worked very well to reduce my<br />
acne to a minor problem. When on the course, sebum was reduced a lot,<br />
so it calmed my seb derm down. Combined with cutanix it worked very<br />
well.<br />
But I wasnt all that satisfied with cutanix, because it does not<br />
address the sebum component of seb derm, and it does not fully combat<br />
the inflammation. 3-4 weeks ago I didnt have any more cutanix, so a<br />
friend of mine in the states said he had scrapped the Cutanix and<br />
used a pure 100 % aloe vera gel in stead, and it worked as well or<br />
better.<br />
So I bought an aloe vera gel and it has worked very well for my seb<br />
derm as an anti inflammatory gel now for 3 weeks. I also use the<br />
Linda Sy Acne Oil Control Gel every other evening or so, it is a<br />
gentle pure salicylic acid gel. It helps to reduce oil and clean<br />
pores.</p>
<p>So what I am saying is that aloe vera gel works better than anything<br />
I have tried for seb derm. How it would work for seriously inflamed<br />
seb derm Im not sure. FOR THAT I would say Accutane would be a choice.</p>
<p>Oh, I would scrap alcohol, I dont think it is good for seb derm. And<br />
smoking too, for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>Other that that, keep an eye out for the company Tamarkin<br />
Pharmaceutical who are working with a anti seb derm lotion of great<br />
promise. I dont know when they will launch it and if they will be<br />
handling out samples, I do not think so, I think it will be a<br />
prescription lotion, even if it has very few side effects. The<br />
company does not answer e-mail, which I find very rude. But maybe<br />
they think genious does not answer e-mail?;)</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
MLH, Norway</p>
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		<title>By: Neva Marjory</title>
		<link>http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2005/03/01/seb-derm-rosacea-and-oral-antifungal-sporanox/#comment-1037</link>
		<author>Neva Marjory</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think alot of people have tried oral antifungals but I did
try Diflucan a few years ago, much agaisnt my derm's wishes but I put
up a fight and he wrote me the rx.

I took it for a few weeks and did not notice any reduction in sebderm-
-these medicines are designed to eliminate fungus that are causing
fungal infections. Seb derm is not really a fungus infection so to
speak, but an exaggerated response by our immune system to normal
fungi living on our skin.

Oral antifungals can be very dangerous with regards to your liver,
you need to be monitored on a weekly basis by your doctor--be careful
if you decide to use it and I hope it has benefits for you. The
thing is though that you would need to take this medicine long term
to control sebderm as the fungi will eventually come back (because it
&lt;!--more--&gt;
is normal for them to be living on your skin). I think long term
oral antifungal therapy would never be prescribed by an honest doctor.

You should also start taking a good high potency Probiotic supplement-
-not a cure but should help a little.

RJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think alot of people have tried oral antifungals but I did<br />
try Diflucan a few years ago, much agaisnt my derm&#8217;s wishes but I put<br />
up a fight and he wrote me the rx.</p>
<p>I took it for a few weeks and did not notice any reduction in sebderm-<br />
-these medicines are designed to eliminate fungus that are causing<br />
fungal infections. Seb derm is not really a fungus infection so to<br />
speak, but an exaggerated response by our immune system to normal<br />
fungi living on our skin.</p>
<p>Oral antifungals can be very dangerous with regards to your liver,<br />
you need to be monitored on a weekly basis by your doctor&#8211;be careful<br />
if you decide to use it and I hope it has benefits for you. The<br />
thing is though that you would need to take this medicine long term<br />
to control sebderm as the fungi will eventually come back (because it<br />
<!--more--><br />
is normal for them to be living on your skin). I think long term<br />
oral antifungal therapy would never be prescribed by an honest doctor.</p>
<p>You should also start taking a good high potency Probiotic supplement-<br />
-not a cure but should help a little.</p>
<p>RJ</p>
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