I have a mild rosacea thing going together with seb derm, which has
now been under more or less total control for a few years. And during
the past few months my skin has improved even more, and what I’m using
is a combination of something called Zhongzhou ointment, which kills
Demodex parasites in the skin, Green Tea cream and H&S Intensive
Treatment for both scalp and the suds all over the face, plus 1000 mg
Ester-C and 200 mg Grape Seed Extract. Zinc Gluconate can be good as well.

Dr Syed recently made a new formula for seb derm available with his

Green Tea cream. Expensive yes, but well worth a shot.

Good luck everyone,
Andy

Can anyone who has used successfully salcura intensive please report
their findings. I recently used another product in their line which is
a shower gel which has buckthorn in it which really works well
alongside the intensive spray. I spoke to the customer sevice manager
last week due to a problem with my order and he works for the company
because the products cured his roscea. I enquired why the products
aren’t sold in the mainstream and he suggested that many people have a
lot to lose from Salcura’s products being used particulaarly as they
are inexpensive. He has had vets (the products are also used for
animals) say they can’t use them because they are just ‘too good’
which threatens the whole medical drug company relationship which is
so profitable. I was one of the first people to use protopic in the uk
because i forced a GP to perscribe it to me. Even then i couldn’t

understand why a small tube of ointment cost me equivelent of $50-100.
It seems there is a lot of money in eczema generally.

Just thought i would share this.James

I just wanted to share a positive experience, for once. I’ve been
taking the full range of supplements which is supposed to be good for
rosaceans, and being one myself, and sebdermian, I decided to try it
for myself. What I take is Barlean’s Omega Twin oil, pycnogenol, grape
seed extract, alpha lipoic acid, ester-C and saw palmetto (not sure
about this last one, but I’ve heard good things about it and wanted to
give it a try). All these things cost, but have actully had a very
positive effect on my skin, and yesterday I got confirmation on this
when my girlfriend said I don’t get as red as I could sometimes
before, especially after doing some… eh, joint exercises perhaps..?
:o) So that felt good to hear!

And since rosacea and seb derm is evil cousins, and one often has a

little of both, maybe this could be something for some of you out
there as well, who up to this point has treated their skin from the
seb derm angle only.

There’s still a lot to do for me though, like trying to re-build my
skin after Accutane-damage from a too high dose a few years back. But
it’s always nice when something good happens, god knows that ain’t
very common!

Andy

Basically, people are discussing blue/red light therapy (home units)
and how they have converted their home units to all red (as the blue
light is what kills the bacteria that causes acne, whereas red is
purely anti-inflammatory). Red light does the following things to
your skin (is pretty much along the same lines as the NLite
treatment I had in that it is anti-inflammatory and promotes growth
of collagen, except not as concentrated - by way, my skin is very
clear and quite calm, so this is either the NLite kicking in - they
said 12 weeks - or my recent exposure to sun!):

-anti-inflammatory/calming effect on epidermis

-increases circulation to replace damaged bv’s
-stimulates collagen
-stimulates ATP(energy of a cell, increases cells nutrient bsorption
and waste removal)
-increases lymphatic activity
-increases DNA/RNA synthesis
-*reduces excitabilty of nervous tissue
-stimulates fibrolastic activity
-increases phagocytosis(clean up of dead cells)
-stimulates tissue granulation
-stimulates acetylcholine release
-Readily absorbed by the mitochondria and therefore potentially
stimulatory
-Excellent source of stimulation of a range of growth factors
-(Visible)Red Light does not penetrate very effectively below the
skin surface and into the tissue below so(Visible)Red light is the
best for wound healing or superficial conditions but is not the most
effective way to treat deeper injury

Thought it might be interesting to some people anyway.

thanks, Mike