Comments on: New to group http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/ Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:48:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Efrain Carey http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2213 Efrain Carey Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:01:00 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2213 Exactly. Use soap and shampoo, first. Then apply the yogurt, rub it in a bit and rinse it off. The idea is to get rid of the milk but leave lots of the live micro organisms behind. Use tepid water, so you don't pasteurize them. If you spend extra time rubbing before rinsing, more of the micro organisms will make their way into your hair follicles and the pores of your skin. These bacteria compete with the yeasts that irritate some people and take their place, to a large extent. > if it's so, how will my hair stay clean e.g. for two days? > Also how will it be completely rinsed off only with shampoo? You completely rinse off the shampoo, creme rinse or whatever, first. Then as an extra step, at the end of your <!--more--> bath, use the yogurt as the last thing you apply. The milk content of the yogurt rinses off, very easily, with just water. It is mostly water, anyway. Since I cannot see the micro organisms involved, I can't say for sure, what procedure leaves more of them relocated to your skin. What I described, above is what I do and seems to work well, but you might be able to improve on it. Exactly. Use soap and shampoo, first. Then apply the
yogurt, rub it in a bit and rinse it off. The idea is to
get rid of the milk but leave lots of the live micro
organisms behind. Use tepid water, so you don’t pasteurize
them. If you spend extra time rubbing before rinsing, more
of the micro organisms will make their way into your hair
follicles and the pores of your skin. These bacteria
compete with the yeasts that irritate some people and take
their place, to a large extent.

> if it’s so, how will my hair stay clean e.g. for two days?
> Also how will it be completely rinsed off only with shampoo?

You completely rinse off the shampoo, creme rinse or
whatever, first. Then as an extra step, at the end of your

bath, use the yogurt as the last thing you apply. The milk
content of the yogurt rinses off, very easily, with just
water. It is mostly water, anyway.

Since I cannot see the micro organisms involved, I can’t say
for sure, what procedure leaves more of them relocated to
your skin. What I described, above is what I do and seems
to work well, but you might be able to improve on it.

]]> By: Efrain Carey http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2211 Efrain Carey Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:16:06 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2211 > you mean it can do this on a daily basis? Certainly. A quart of unflavored, live culture yogurt might last you a couple weeks, if you thin a blob with a little warm water, each bath, so you can spread it efficiently without losing hunks of it. It may not work miracles, but it is as close to harmless as anything you can try, including soap. > you mean it can do this on a daily basis?

Certainly. A quart of unflavored, live culture yogurt might
last you a couple weeks, if you thin a blob with a little
warm water, each bath, so you can spread it efficiently
without losing hunks of it. It may not work miracles, but
it is as close to harmless as anything you can try,
including soap.

]]> By: Efrain Carey http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2210 Efrain Carey Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:58:08 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2210 Sally, if you haven't yet tried it, you might get a quart of unflavored, live cultured yogurt (should be less than $2). Before bathing, set a cup or so of the yogurt out in a nonbreakable bowl (you don't want broken glass in the tub) to warm to room temperature. You can warm it in the microwave, but I think you will get more live culture if you let it warm gently. After bathing and rinsing all soap and shampoo off, pour the yogurt over the affected area, and don't worry about getting it everywhere. It won't hurt anything, and is soothing. after rubbing it in a little, rinse off with tepid water, but don't worry about being very thorough. The idea is to inoculate the surface of the skin with lots of protective <!--more--> microbes that will guard the skin against yeast and fungus that might be irritating it, till the next bath. Also puts a nice shine on the hair, if you have hard water (because it is slightly acid, and removes the film of minerals). Since it takes a month or so for epidermis to completely rebuild itself, it might take that long to completely heal, even if it is working well. At least, I think this is a low risk thing to try. Sally, if you haven’t yet tried it, you might get a quart of
unflavored, live cultured yogurt (should be less than $2).

Before bathing, set a cup or so of the yogurt out in a
nonbreakable bowl (you don’t want broken glass in the tub)
to warm to room temperature. You can warm it in the
microwave, but I think you will get more live culture if you
let it warm gently.

After bathing and rinsing all soap and shampoo off, pour the
yogurt over the affected area, and don’t worry about getting
it everywhere. It won’t hurt anything, and is soothing.
after rubbing it in a little, rinse off with tepid water,
but don’t worry about being very thorough. The idea is to
inoculate the surface of the skin with lots of protective

microbes that will guard the skin against yeast and fungus
that might be irritating it, till the next bath. Also puts
a nice shine on the hair, if you have hard water (because it
is slightly acid, and removes the film of minerals). Since
it takes a month or so for epidermis to completely rebuild
itself, it might take that long to completely heal, even if
it is working well. At least, I think this is a low risk
thing to try.

]]> By: Marisol Robbins http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2137 Marisol Robbins Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:37:19 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2137 I've used steroids and nizoral before too and wanted to find more natural solutions too. Now I use Atopalm line of moisturizers. They make a face cream but I use the regular cream on my face too. I get them through Skin Store, which sometimes offers discounts. I think it is also part of the Ebates.com web site that offers rebates for a percentage of purchases. To cleanse my skin, I use a microfiber cloth, which cleans very well with just water. You can get the "Wonder Cloth" at Bed Bath and Beyond ar a Jane Iredale mitt at a seller of Jane Iredale cosmetics. For shampoos, I've used P&S, which I got from the DermaDoctor.com web site; Phytosylic, which I got from drugstore.com/beauty.com (also part of Ebates); and Aubrey Organics Selenium shampoo, which I got at <!--more--> Wild Oats. They key thing is to avoid cleansers and shampoos that contain lauryl sulfates. When my sebderm flares up, I either use Ovace (prescription cream), Dermadoctor's Calm, Cool and Corrected (from drugstore.com) or Derma E Tea Tree cream (also from Drugstore.com). Sharon Kantanie On Oct 31, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Lawrence Dixon wrote: I’ve used steroids and nizoral before too and wanted to find more
natural solutions too.

Now I use Atopalm line of moisturizers. They make a face cream but I
use the regular cream on my face too. I get them through Skin Store,
which sometimes offers discounts. I think it is also part of the
Ebates.com web site that offers rebates for a percentage of purchases.

To cleanse my skin, I use a microfiber cloth, which cleans very well
with just water. You can get the "Wonder Cloth" at Bed Bath and
Beyond ar a Jane Iredale mitt at a seller of Jane Iredale cosmetics.

For shampoos, I’ve used P&S, which I got from the DermaDoctor.com web
site; Phytosylic, which I got from drugstore.com/beauty.com (also
part of Ebates); and Aubrey Organics Selenium shampoo, which I got at

Wild Oats.

They key thing is to avoid cleansers and shampoos that contain lauryl
sulfates.

When my sebderm flares up, I either use Ovace (prescription cream),
Dermadoctor’s Calm, Cool and Corrected (from drugstore.com) or Derma
E Tea Tree cream (also from Drugstore.com).

Sharon Kantanie

On Oct 31, 2006, at 4:44 PM, Lawrence Dixon wrote:

]]> By: Sonja Bender http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2136 Sonja Bender Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:14:11 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2136 It is not atypical for things like Nizoral to fail after a period of time. Same with certain steroids (they are not good anyway over the long term), I think that sometimes people end up having to escalete to more and more powerful steroids to get any benefit. Nonetheless they are often needed to get things under control, Elocon worked best for me and continues to but I do not often elect to use it as the long term effects of cutaneous steriods thin the skin and predispose to rosacea type lesions. The calcineurin inhibitors like protopic and elidel work well but I think the jury is still out on long term use (small chance they may cause cancer, immunosupression etc). If things are bad with your SD though they are <!--more--> definitely beneficial. For the hair, head &Shoulders dry scalp (both shampoo and conditioner) have worked well for me. Once things are under control a good moisturizer I like is the l'occitane creme de miel (expensive but it works) avoid the stuff with fragrances and stuff with alcohols which tends to dry the skin excessively, by the same token avoid stuff that leaves you too greasy. Wash the face at least 2 x per day with gentle soap again I like l'occitane stuff but whatever u use make sure it is gentle. I hope this helps. Good luck. Scott It is not atypical for things like Nizoral to fail after a period of time. Same
with certain
steroids (they are not good anyway over the long term), I think that sometimes
people end up
having to escalete to more and more powerful steroids to get any benefit.
Nonetheless they
are often needed to get things under control, Elocon worked best for me and
continues to
but I do not often elect to use it as the long term effects of cutaneous
steriods thin the skin
and predispose to rosacea type lesions. The calcineurin inhibitors like
protopic and elidel
work well but I think the jury is still out on long term use (small chance they
may cause
cancer, immunosupression etc). If things are bad with your SD though they are

definitely
beneficial. For the hair, head &Shoulders dry scalp (both shampoo and
conditioner) have
worked well for me. Once things are under control a good moisturizer I like is
the l’occitane
creme de miel (expensive but it works) avoid the stuff with fragrances and stuff
with alcohols
which tends to dry the skin excessively, by the same token avoid stuff that
leaves you too
greasy. Wash the face at least 2 x per day with gentle soap again I like
l’occitane stuff but
whatever u use make sure it is gentle. I hope this helps. Good luck.

Scott

]]> By: Leon May http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2135 Leon May Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:24:27 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-2135 Hi folks-- i am new to the group but have had sebderm (with some rosacia) for about 6 years now. it is on my forehead, nose, and below my eyes. it also has found its way into my scalp. sometimes i am a walking blizzard--without the chill. i am in my upper 30s. the dermatologist put me on steroid cream (which i am tired of taking--i'd rather find a better way to manage it more naturally), which does not seem to do much, and at some point in the last several years i was on antibiotics, nizoral, other shampoos. nothing seemed to help much. upon doing some research i learned i should wash better (i thought that i needed my oils--wrong again), so hopefully things will improve with <!--more--> better management. Does anyone have any suggestions on using more natural means? any suggestions on soaps/cleansers to use on my face, or shampoo? any ideas on using aloe or vitamin b? what type of face moisterizer do folks recommend? it feels like my face will crack and shift like pangea. any suggestions for a newbie like me? thanks...lgd Hi folks–

i am new to the group but have had sebderm (with some rosacia) for
about 6 years now. it is on my forehead, nose, and below my eyes. it
also has found its way into my scalp. sometimes i am a walking
blizzard–without the chill. i am in my upper 30s.

the dermatologist put me on steroid cream (which i am tired of
taking–i’d rather find a better way to manage it more naturally),
which does not seem to do much, and at some point in the last several
years i was on antibiotics, nizoral, other shampoos. nothing seemed to
help much.

upon doing some research i learned i should wash better (i thought that
i needed my oils–wrong again), so hopefully things will improve with

better management. Does anyone have any suggestions on using more
natural means? any suggestions on soaps/cleansers to use on my face,
or shampoo? any ideas on using aloe or vitamin b? what type of face
moisterizer do folks recommend? it feels like my face will crack and
shift like pangea.

any suggestions for a newbie like me?

thanks…lgd

]]> By: Rigoberto Austin http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1870 Rigoberto Austin Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:51:34 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1870 Thank you!! <div style="text-align: center;color: rgb(144, 144, 144);"> <hr style="border-bottom: 1px none;text-align: left;"> </div> </blockquote></div> Thank you!!

]]> By: Rueben Reeves http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1859 Rueben Reeves Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:00:47 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1859 see a derm, if theyre non cystic, short term minocycline can knock them down quick. if they are really big get Kenalog shots. see a derm,
if theyre non cystic,
short term minocycline can knock them down quick.
if they are really big get Kenalog shots.

]]> By: Neva Marjory http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1857 Neva Marjory Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:17:06 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1857 I was wandering the same thing about the red bumps... i am not sure if they are acne or sebderm.... and I want to know if my medicine ketoconozole will get rid of the bumps.... i am acually going through an episode right now...but i know that God will heal me soon... ihad not had a break out in maybe a year... b/c around this time i have a bad one and then they are not bad at all.. but my face really broke out with red acne like bumps.... and i do not wnat my face to scar... but ithink when they redness goes away and my face continues to pill the spots will pill right of... but can some one please tell me some of your experiences Thank you!! I was wandering the same thing about the red bumps… i am not sure if
they are acne or sebderm…. and I want to know if my medicine
ketoconozole will get rid of the bumps…. i am acually going through
an episode right now…but i know that God will heal me soon… ihad
not had a break out in maybe a year… b/c around this time i have a
bad one and then they are not bad at all.. but my face really broke out
with red acne like bumps…. and i do not wnat my face to scar… but
ithink when they redness goes away and my face continues to pill the
spots will pill right of… but can some one please tell me some of
your experiences

Thank you!!

]]> By: Brittney Delta http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1854 Brittney Delta Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:39:30 +0000 http://www.seborrhoeic-dermatitis.ev-by.org/2003/03/19/new-to-group/#comment-1854 Hi, I find that using elidel and protopic, alternating between them, seems to help - although I know there has been a lot of talk lately about the cancer warning on them. I also like Jojoba oil but nothing seems to work 100% wish i could find that magic routine. Rob. test'; "> Hi,

I find that using elidel and protopic, alternating
between them, seems to help - although I know there
has been a lot of talk lately about the cancer warning
on them. I also like Jojoba oil but nothing seems to
work 100% wish i could find that magic routine. Rob.

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